THORNHILL & BLAIR DRUMMOND COMMUNITY COUNCIL
28th of April at 7:30 pm
Present and apologies Hector Muir -Vice-Chair (HM), Gabriela Ingle -Secretary (GI),
Elaine Blanchard - Treasurer (EB), Al Rawlinson (AL), Michelle Flynn SC (MF), Cllr
Jeremy McDonald (JM), Cllr Martin Earl (ME), Yvonne Dickson - Minutes Secretary
8 Members of the public: Christine Bauer (CB), Gary Richardson (GR), Joyce Firth (JF),
Gavin Morrison (GM), Sam Campbell (SM), Mandy McMonagle (MM), Catherine
McGreagor (CM), Robbie (R)
Apologies: Andy Greig (AG), Joanne Ingles, (JI), Scott Patterson (SP) Sheena Stewart
(SS), Cllr Evelyn Tweed (ET)
Approval of minutes of meeting on the 17th of March 2021 Agreed (GI), Seconded
Matters arising None
Reports – External:
Transport Scotland re Traffic Alleviation at Safari Park – (HM) No progress, no
reply from Transport Scotland as yet.
Police Scotland Report sent out via email
Antisocial Behaviour Sometime between 26th and 29th March 2021 damage has
been caused to property within the grounds of Thornhill Primary School.
Road Safety On 28/03/21 officers were carrying out patrols when they had
reason to stop a vehicle on A84 near to Blairdrummond. The driver was found to
have no valid insurance for the vehicle. The driver has been reported to the
Other: On 18/04/21 police received a call regarding males hare coursing on
Chalmerston road, Stirling. Police attended and 2 males were traced. After
enquiry, they have now been reported to the Procurator Fiscal in relation to
Protection of Wild Mammals Act.
Community engagement: Should anyone have any policing issues they wish to
discuss or raise, please contact us at Callander Police Station on 101 or via email
Stirling County Councillor (JM) Council meeting on technical staff Thurs 29 April,
Covid Recovery plan, resume committees after election. Having trouble getting in
touch with roads team so looking to see how we can fix this. (ME) approve roads
programme for coming year will be discussed at council meeting tomorrow (Thurs
29 April) and three schemes will be progressed in the coming year. Look out for
these. Recovery plan – there is a lot of money in various pots estimating 12+ml
and we have to ensure the Recovery Plan will deal with all of Stirling for support.
(GR) asked if the roads resurfacing the b822 has been removed. (ME) this is still
on the roads plan.
(ME) they have agreed to look at this A873 area has been on the agenda for a
while now and it will be included in the audit, then there will be an investigation,
this will be mapped out and have had 17 responses re Blair Drummond lanes. A84
near the safari park is a really bad junction with heavy vehicles using it via sat nav
suggestions for quickest route. Need for work and better signage passing places,
speeding, damage to the verges, traffic calming measures and what should go up
these roads needs to be mapped out. Can’t say how long this will take. When we
get to the position there needs to be a meeting to look at the mapping. Thoughts
are should be done within approx. 3 months. (CB) thanked the councillors for
Reports – Internal:
Chair (HM) nothing to report.
Secretary (GI) asked Michelle about sending a couple of enquiries and have had a
reply from SC to say they can’t receive emails from personal email address.
Struggling to log in to the account as there are safety measures (MF) Can Michelle
ask IT to help with this problem. ACTION (MF) will call (GI) tomorrow to resolve
Treasurer Bank Balance £1760.60 - Beaton’s Charity Run donation£200 -
Thornhill Community trust for benches £300, Zoom Licence £143.88 and Minutes
payment £40 – admin grant to fill in but as it’s a strange year due to Covid there
are no hall hires etc.. (JM) suggested Include payment for Zoom licence for
consideration in admin grant.
Planning – no major updates – spread sheet sent out
Thornhill Future Group – (AR) steering group meeting – manifesto was approved,
started compiling returns – things are moving at pace, and regular meetings
scheduled, Scottish Government consultation on police plans – proposals for
development – something to be aware of as a CC. Historic Scotland planning on
feeding into. Members will take part in the consultation. (MF) numerous planning
issues a few years ago of over development and because they all use septic tanks.
It did feed into the LDP – previous CC members fed into this and gave their
comments around septic tanks and where they flowed into. ACTION (MF) will
find the documentation on this.
Thornhill Community Trust - (EB) noted they are losing their current Chair
Blair Drummond Community Hall (GI) no update as the hall remains closed.
Community Council Business
Dunsire and Partners’ development in Thornhill: AG – no information on the
Windfarm – Shelloch development in Gargunnock - AG no further information at
Slow down sign/flashing light on A873 after B8031 (near Coldoch Road) towards
Stirling – (ME) as above 4C
North Common – (EB) drainage work continues, resurface the road in the next
two weeks. ACTION Remove from agenda
CC engagement with the community – (EB) publishing the login and the agenda
on the web and Facebook
Street lights – (GI) an email was circulated with the response from SC – SC would
like to keep the lights for the health and safety of the residents if the areas are
well lit and in the past there were incident of anti-social behaviour – ACTION
remove from agenda
Junction of Main Street and Kippen Road / Road B822 from Thornhill to Kippen-
EB – forwarded email to cc-enquiry and hasn’t had a reply to date. (MF) has
spoken to roads re this issue also.
Cycle parking – (GR) was in Gartmore and they have a very good system working.
This is the type of thing he was looking for. He will pursue this in other ways
under Thornhill Futures or something other than the council. (JM) noted its worth
having a discussion with officers to see if there is anything available and we can
perhaps join this up. (EB) send details to JM and he will have the discussion with
officers. (MF) suggested SC Jean Cowie, Funding officer may be able to help
Sommers Lane – ME/ as above 4C
Residents Forum: - Floral tubs in Thornhill – JF (letter) want the tub replaced at
the end of the road, the ground is uneven and we want to know if SC did this
(JM ) asked which road this is - Aberfoyle road out of Thornhill where a path has
been built which caused the tub to move a few times and it is a mess.
(AG) sent email the footpath/bridge works along the A873 towards Boquhapple was
done by the landowner and various subcontractors. The requirement for the work was
as part of the planning permission the landowner obtained in connection with the
development of the new houses at Boquhapple Mains. Stirling Council Roads
Department were involved with a degree of oversight. I am not sure whether Roads have
signed off the work: my suspicion is that they have not done so yet. It is clear to all that
the work has been finished to a poor standard, with virtually non-existent landscaping,
and significant construction debris left on site. A better course of action may be to
approach the Roads Department to engage their help in ensuring the mess is tidied up
before they sign off the work as being up to standard. This may enable a degree of
leverage to be applied, which we are unable to apply directly. (MF) a pathway was put
in for a safe school route and SC was talking to the Landowner – suggested we go
back to planning ACTION (MF) to send documentation to (JM)
(JF’s) letter also made note of an overhanging tree near the benches and phone
box in Thornhill. It is thought this land belongs to the Council ACTION (EB) will
check who is responsible for tree trimming.
AOB. (GR) 8 houses along have the issue on the B822 - during fine weather there are
vehicles speeding some well over 80mph, can we get support to monitor this and
find a solution (JM) explained factors that may come up with the data during the
audit. (JF) 20 mph restrictions in Thornhill, People don’t respect the speed limit. we
are looking for evidence of enforcement. This combined with parking on the
pavements and we need to know we are going to get support from the police. (JM)
suggested CC write to police he is happy to support this. (MM) noted it may get
better as more people get used to it. (JM) will bring up traffic calming at the council
meeting. (MF) explained the cc-enquiries and the capacity and Covid implications –
individuals are reporting individual issues and saying they are priority; this needs to
be sent via CC. (JM) we need to encourage people to report issues in the community
and lights and roads can be explicitly reported via www.upmystreet website. There is
also a section on the SC website called Report It.
Date, time and venue of next meeting: AGM 09/06/2021 at 7pm; followed by a normal
meeting at 7:30pm.
Remove 6d North Common Road from the agenda
Remove 6f Street lights from the agenda
(MF) will call (GI) tomorrow to resolve the issue around emails to cc-enquiry via personal
(MF) will find the documentation on previous planning issues around septic tanks this.
(MF) will find documentation to send to (JM) re Residents Forum issue 6 J re path and
information on who the land belongs to
(EB) will check who is responsible for tree trimming.6 J